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my bansuri recordings

The bansuri, one of the oldest musical instruments in India, is a side-blown flute made of bamboo or reed with six or seven holes.

my bansuri recordings

Postby sandip » Sat May 03, 2008 2:07 am

I have been playing bansuri for sometime ... but always played it as hobby. Recently started the 'real' learning process. Searching for a guru, but no success yet in that respect...

So for now, I have been learning all by myself. I am frequent visitor to this forum. I get very inspired when I listen to bansuri recorded by someone who is probably is same phase as myself. In general, listening to bansuri in itself is quite inspirational...

I have been learning and recording myself playing bansuri. I am starting this new topic hopefully to have collection of links / urls of all who have their bansuri recorded.

here's recent one from me, which I think is good enough for me to share without much embarassment :) It's from old Hindi movie Hero and parts of song - Lambi Judai
http://www.esnips.com/doc/fa02eb60-9b9a ... dai---hero

I would like to invite all, to upload and share their work. Lets inspire and learn from each other.
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Postby Nati » Wed May 14, 2008 3:38 pm

hi sandip.

this is a good idea, and i`ve fhouth about it already,
i`m just not ready yet :-)

i`m practicing alot of technicue, and some diffuicult raga which i can play yet...

i know only difiicult india music.


maybe soon....
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Postby sandip » Thu May 29, 2008 3:31 am

one more attempt
Recorded part of Ancient Voices on my bansuri, please check it out and any comments are most welcome....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqEnWOVNL4g
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Postby subhas » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:42 pm

Not bad. What kind of (scale, key and how many cm) Bansuri is that? I know certain sounds come out certain Bansuris but I can't tell at this point. Thanks....subhas.
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Postby manu » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:13 am

Sandip your idea is good. I am working on bringing new updates to this site.

One of the things that I am planning is to have a section where people can share their audio/video recordings. This would help all of us learn new things and see/hear how other people are playing this instrument.

Regarding your recording I think there is too much reverb but the tone of the flute is really good.
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Re: my bansuri recordings

Postby anujgupta83 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:28 pm

sandip wrote:I have been playing bansuri for sometime ... but always played it as hobby. Recently started the 'real' learning process. Searching for a guru, but no success yet in that respect...

So for now, I have been learning all by myself. I am frequent visitor to this forum. I get very inspired when I listen to bansuri recorded by someone who is probably is same phase as myself. In general, listening to bansuri in itself is quite inspirational...

I have been learning and recording myself playing bansuri. I am starting this new topic hopefully to have collection of links / urls of all who have their bansuri recorded.

here's recent one from me, which I think is good enough for me to share without much embarassment :) It's from old Hindi movie Hero and parts of song - Lambi Judai
http://www.esnips.com/doc/fa02eb60-9b9a ... dai---hero

I would like to invite all, to upload and share their work. Lets inspire and learn from each other.



Hi Sandip,

Thats a very cool recording,i wish i could also play like that.I am also learning bansuri myself ,i have practiced the Aaroh-Aavroh ,and some of the alankars mentioned on this site.I would now like to compose some melodious song like the one you composed.Please help me in this ,how can i learn to compose music on Bansuri.

Hey Manu ,if you reading this please give your inputs also.
Manu you have done a great job by creating this site as this is the
best and the only site for the Bansuri Lovers(Like me) :D
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Re: my bansuri recordings

Postby manu » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:42 pm

anujgupta83 wrote:how can i learn to compose music on Bansuri.


It's just a question of practice. There is no shortcut just keep practicing and feel free to experiment. Try new things, you have to get to the level where the instrument is an extension of you which basically means that when you are playing you shouldn't be conscious of the fact that you are playing. Just aim for that and everything else will come automatically.


anujgupta83 wrote:Hey Manu ,if you reading this please give your inputs also.
Manu you have done a great job by creating this site as this is the
best and the only site for the Bansuri Lovers(Like me) :D


Thanks for the nice words about the site. I was just about to take the site down and replace it with a newer version that I have been working on for a few weeks and I saw someone was online on the forum... This site is really important to me and I have millions of things planned. Let's see how much time I can take out to implement those all this stuff...

All the best for your flute playing!
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Postby sandip » Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:36 pm

Anuj, thanks a lot for your encouraging words...
Now, how to compose...? Well, I have not composed it, I have just played the old song from Hero movie. I guess, first step can be attempts to play pre-composed music. Just make sure you match the notes.

If you have been learning some raga, play some part of raaga, if possible the bandish part... I keep trying, learning and recording. If something comes out ok, I upload it and it inspires me more to learn and keep going. I have few ideas about composing something of my own, but I lack skills with other instruments. I need few musicians who can play guitar, drums, tabla and I can compose something nice. But that's far away from where I stand now!

So for now, I keep playing pre-composed stuff. At times, I make few changes but nothing major. For past few weeks, I have been trying to learn Hansadhwani (it's one of my favorite). I have recorded small dhun of hansadhwani raaga that I played on synth and then on E-scale bass bansuri and sync'ed / mixed them.

check it out and please leave some comments...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtbdw3XhMww

And finally, as Manu has said, it's all about practice. Keep practicing.
Soon you might realize, you can play parts of raaga or some song.
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Postby anujgupta83 » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:09 pm

sandip wrote:Anuj, thanks a lot for your encouraging words...
Now, how to compose...? Well, I have not composed it, I have just played the old song from Hero movie. I guess, first step can be attempts to play pre-composed music. Just make sure you match the notes.

If you have been learning some raga, play some part of raaga, if possible the bandish part... I keep trying, learning and recording. If something comes out ok, I upload it and it inspires me more to learn and keep going. I have few ideas about composing something of my own, but I lack skills with other instruments. I need few musicians who can play guitar, drums, tabla and I can compose something nice. But that's far away from where I stand now!

So for now, I keep playing pre-composed stuff. At times, I make few changes but nothing major. For past few weeks, I have been trying to learn Hansadhwani (it's one of my favorite). I have recorded small dhun of hansadhwani raaga that I played on synth and then on E-scale bass bansuri and sync'ed / mixed them.

check it out and please leave some comments...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtbdw3XhMww

And finally, as Manu has said, it's all about practice. Keep practicing.
Soon you might realize, you can play parts of raaga or some song.


Hey Sandip and Manu Thanx for the reply.

Yaar Sandip i used the wrong word compose ,actually what i meant was how can i play a tune of a song.I need lot of practice but if you can show me the path,it will help me to actually do the right things while practicing. :)
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Postby sandip » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:43 pm

Anuj,
Frankly, I am not an expert to guide. But what I can do is share my experiences, thoughts...

Lets split the learning process into 3 classes:

1. Knowledge of raagas:
This involves attempts to learn as much as possible about raagas in general. What are the swars? What is the vaadi / samvaadi swar? Other specifics about the raag... also learning further like what are shrutis, etc. This does not necessarily involve bansuri. it's just simple learning. I have been referring to internet for this. a good website is:
http://swarganga.org

2. Practice:
This is most crucial. It can start simple with Sa,Re,Ga...Ni,Sa. Each note must come out as good as possible (without any airy, hissing sound). For example, take a raag, like raag Bhupali, learn what are the notes involved and start practising those notes (aaroh, avroh) in madhya and then eventually in taar saptak. On this website itself, there's a nice page http://www.knowyourraga.com/bansuri/lessons/
that talks about learning to play bansuri...

3. Fun with learning:
This is kind of informal learning... For me, it's easier to remember simple songs rather than the raaga played. So, for example, choose a raag (which is simpler comparatively to other raags) e.g. bhupali, then search on net for songs that are played in this raag, choose a song you like and try playing it (swarganga website has a good list). This can be fun, but one must make sure, one learns and tries to put in main features of the raag, even though the real song may miss some of those....

Using above 3 step approach, divide your time, dedicate time to each step and soon one should be better bansuri player in time....
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Postby milind » Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:50 am

Well said Sandip !

I would like to just add that a raag comprises of more than just knowing the swars, vaadi and samvaadi. There is the aspect of swar lagav which is the life-blood of the raag. For instance, Miya Ki Todi and Multani share exactly the same swar set but they are so vastly different. Both are considered "bade" raags. The same goes for Marwa, Sohoni and Puriya. Exactly the same swar set but unmistakably different.

The trick to learning raagdari is to listen, listen and then listen some more. There is no short cut. Unless your ears are highly trained, no matter what you do with the bamboo, it will be pretty much useless. Trained ears can pick up the tiniest of changes in frequency (shrutis), and the smallest of swar lagavs. No matter how fast the taan is one should be able to instantly decipher it in its bare bones sargam form. This will only come by listening to pure Indian classical music for at least 4 - 5 hours a day. And by listening I mean, listening attentively. Also, use the slow down features of Media Player until you are able to identif each note of the piece. This will involve a lot of backwards and forwards of the piece you are listening. Listen to vocal music, especially Dhrupad. That is raagdari in its barest and purest form.

On this forum I will soon post some tools for accelerating ear training. It almost deserves a separate topic I would imagine. On the same thread I would encourage members to post clips that demonstrate the swar lagav of a particular swar in a raag.
Only when your mnd is rained can you start training your hands and fingers.
Hope this makes sense.
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simple dhun...

Postby sandip » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:21 pm

frankly, this isn't any particular raag (or atleast I did not play it with any specific raag in mind). it's just swar lagav :) if I may say...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hMasmyIg_U

Govind bolo Hari Gopal Bolo...
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Re: simple dhun...

Postby manu » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:05 pm

That's a great recording! Well Done!

Next time try playing with a tabla(electronic or otherwise) as that would help you maintain a rhythm and sound a lot better too.
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Postby sandip » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:05 pm

Manu, thanks for the encouragement.
I don't have full version of RiyazStudio (neither I have good knowledge of taal for tabla) but very soon I will add tabla too...

I recorded some more, this time it's raag bhoopali. The recording is not very clear but it has come out ok. It's mix of dhuns based on raag bhoopali and parts of song jyoti kalash chalke based on the same raag.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaSIqBOFSbc

This website has been great source of inspiration, I hope others would join me and upload their practice / recordings and share the links...

As always, any comments are most welcome.
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Postby desisinger » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:56 am

Sandip,

You have pretty good recordings on youtube.

I'm a beginner and always wanted to play the tune from movie Hero. If you dont mind could you post the notes for 'Lambi Judai' that you have on youtube ? That would help me play the tune that I wanted to play from a long time :D

Hope to see more postings from you.
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